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PATAX
Level 12
October 17, 2023
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EFTPS will require multi-factor Authentication

  • October 17, 2023
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Apparently effective October 19th multi-factor authentication will be required when accessing EFTPS to make payments for our clients. Apparently when we log on to the site we will be prompted to register and or authenticate with either login.gov or id.me. I don't think I've ever used id.me. I don't have zoom or a camera on my computer. Hopefully I won't have any issues with this nonsense. If anyone has any information I would appreciate it. Thank you

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Best answer by PATAX

People should closely read all of the posts and comments, and make their own decision.

 

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IRonMaN
Level 15
October 17, 2023

Sounds like some extra fun coming up 😁

Slava Ukraini!
abctax55
Level 15
October 17, 2023

@PATAX  Do you have a phone with a camera?  You can use that to take a picture to upload for id.me.  

I did (& I only have a 'not stupid' semi-smart Samsung, no I-phone for me) - it wasn't exactly pretty, but it worked.

HumanKind... Be Both
PATAX
PATAXAuthor
Level 12
October 17, 2023

Thanks I have a Samsung also with a camera on it. Hopefully everything will work out. Also there is a phone number apparently that people can use to make the deposit over the phone 1-800-555-3453. I hope I don't have to use that. I'm going to call the clients up that I make weekly deposits for and tell them if I have problems then they're going to have to start doing it themselves. I don't need this nonsense, as I'm ready to quit anyways.

Jim-from-Ohio
Intuit Community Champion
October 17, 2023

W-2 submission for the SSA also requires that additional step.  I went through the ID.ME sign up when I first discovered that.  It can be kind of tricky but I got it to work.  I bet more and more sites wiill require that addtional step as time goes on.  

abctax55
Level 15
October 17, 2023

AND.... where'd ya' here/see this?  It's news to me, but then I've been head-down the last two weeks trying to meet yesterday's deadline.  You know, that deadline that just got pushed back again 😉

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PATAX
PATAXAuthor
Level 12
October 17, 2023

@abctax55 I received that information in an email this morning from The National Society of Tax Professionals. The NSTP. What is funny is that they started it off with: ICYMI. Yes I don't remember hearing about this before.

JRC
Level 7
October 17, 2023

The New Requirement is posted on the EFTPS site as soon as you log in..  How many clients asked me about this? NONE!!  Prepare for the Calls we will be getting or making to those who make their own deposits.

 

 

Level 10
October 17, 2023

I made the decision LONG AGO that I was never going to be responsible for actually making any client payments.

Don't want the hassle and don't want the liability of screwing it up. If they can't make their own payments to the IRS they can move on.

IRonMaN
Level 15
October 17, 2023

Many years ago I inherited a law firm client from my former partner.  We did payroll for the client.  No big deal doing the regular payroll, but after a large settlement, bonuses would get paid out and I would break out in a cold sweat when I was clicking in the numbers over the phone to make those tax deposits.  The client retired a few years back and I sleep better at night not having to worry about screwing up those deposits.😰

Slava Ukraini!
PATAX
PATAXAuthor
Level 12
October 17, 2023

Here is something else that was in that NSTP email: "Effective October 19th, multi-factor authentication will be required when accessing EFTPS. This may present an issue for those accessing EFTPS on behalf of their clients to initiate tax payments. The IRS is aware of the issue and it has been elevated for review. However, no solution has yet to be provided." I think the statements speak for themselves. SMH.

dascpa
Level 11
October 17, 2023

Government at it's finest.

PATAX
PATAXAuthor
Level 12
October 17, 2023

I just put a message about this on our state organization private email list forum and I immediately received  response. The lady is very knowledgeable and active in the state group and she did not even know about this. I talked to her on the phone . There are some heavy hitters (not me, I'm a loser) in this organization and hopefully someone will have the right contact to get us information or get this extended, fixed, or whatever.

PATAX
PATAXAuthor
Level 12
October 18, 2023

There is a telephone tutorial system for filing EFTPS by telephone. That phone number is 1-800-572-8683. They will walk you through the steps on how to make the 941 deposit via telephone. It doesn't sound too bad.

Level 3
October 18, 2023

So do we think we can bypass this by calling in? Seems like they would still be asking to verify something.

PATAX
PATAXAuthor
Level 12
October 18, 2023

@Channell6 I am not sure if they will. It seems like this is an internet electronic transmission issue. I had a broker that would not email to me clients data (client gave them permission) because of security issues, but they did fax it to me via telephone line. So apparently phone lines are more secure.

JRC
Level 7
October 18, 2023

I am so glad I have people available besides myself to work on this. ME#1, ME#2, ME#3,Ect...

Without all these ME's, I don't think I would have survived all these changes these past 2-years.

And with all the available instructions to help, guide and teach me, I surely would not have survived.

NOT 😞 

TY

 

PATAX
PATAXAuthor
Level 12
October 18, 2023

@JRC Sole Proprietors and small firms have to network now. This is the only way we can keep abreast of everything.

JRC
Level 7
October 18, 2023

@PATAX; so true I need to do that... I have been relying on all the ME's for too long now and have been biding my time till retirement.  I also need to say NO more often now. It seems the closer I get to Retirement the more Clients I am accumulating under my belt. 

abctax55
Level 15
October 18, 2023

Yesterday was payroll day in my office; we pushed *hard* to get all deposits done (even the 11.15.23 ones, for monthly depositers.

Almost all FUTA deposits done too, and the ones not yet done technically can even wait until Jan 2024.

So my plan is to check by trying to do a FUTA deposit to see if there's an issue.  

Hopefully, this won't be as bad as it appears it might be.

 

 

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PATAX
PATAXAuthor
Level 12
October 18, 2023

@abctax55 thanks a million for reminding us about that FUTA 940. I had a client that owed $497 through the third quarter, so technically he does not have to make the deposit since it is under $500. But I just went in now and made the $497 deposit, and whatever the balance due with the 940 return he can pay with the 940 return since it will be under $500. I also previously made all the October 941 deposits like you. I just have a couple weekly deposits that I'll have to do on Monday, and hopefully by then we'll know what's going on. If I have to telefile then I will. Thanks a lot I appreciate it, Dan.

abctax55
Level 15
October 18, 2023

Dan, shall I send you a P.M with my banking info for that million 😂 

AND YVW for the reminder - especially since YOU are the one that brought this whole (potential) mess to our collective attention.

I have very few clients that go over the $ 500 FUTA amount, and they usually do it in the 1st or 2nd quarter.   I don't 'like' carrying it over from one quarter to the next (old habits, & all that) but it's OK to do so.... Anna

 

 

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