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February 1, 2021
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The instructions read

"You were subject to federal, state or local quarantine or isolation order related to COVID 19"

Does that mean when my county went into lockdown back in March/April for 3 weeks, those self employed people that didnt work during that time would qualify for this?

I broke the lockdown and came to work anyhow (I could quarantine here alone in my office just the same as at home), so it doesnt apply to me, but Im sure some SE people didnt leave their homes during that time and couldnt go do their job.

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Best answer by TaxGuyBill

@Just-Lisa-Now- wrote:
The instructions read
"You were subject to federal, state or local quarantine or isolation order related to COVID 19"
Does that mean when my county went into lockdown back in March/April for 3 weeks, those self employed people that didnt work during that time would qualify for this?

Yes. Well, sort of. Their must have been work available to be done (see below, including the link to Questions 23-27).

This is worded towards being an employee, but the same rules apply:

How do I know if I can receive paid sick leave for a Federal, State, or local quarantine or isolation order related to COVID-19?

For purposes of the FFCRA, a Federal, State, or local quarantine or isolation order includes quarantine or isolation orders, as well as shelter-in-place or stay-at-home orders, issued by any Federal, State, or local government authority that cause you to be unable to work (or to telework) even though your employer has work that you could perform but for the order. You may not take paid sick leave for this qualifying reason if your employer does not have work for you as a result of a shelter-in-place or a stay-at-home order. In the instance where your employer does not have work for you as a result of a shelter-in-place or a stay-at-home order, please see Questions 23-27.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-questions#60

qbteachmt

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Lockdown or "stay at home" order isn't the same as quarantine.

From the CDC:

"Quarantine is used to keep someone who might have been exposed to COVID-19 away from others. Quarantine helps prevent spread of disease that can occur before a person knows they are sick or if they are infected with the virus without feeling symptoms. People in quarantine should stay home, separate themselves from others, monitor their health, and follow directions from their state or local health department.

Quarantine or isolation: What's the difference?

Quarantine keeps someone who might have been exposed to the virus away from others.

Isolation keeps someone who is infected with the virus away from others, even in their home."

My State is handling the qualification for SE unemployment (pandemic funds) as "were you impacted because of..." and then a list of things which is a little different, yet.

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Just-Lisa-Now-

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So what would be considered a federal, state or local quarantine?

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Just-Lisa-Now-

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I just saw Rick had added to this thread, but now his whole post is missing?

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TaxGuyBillAnswer

@Just-Lisa-Now- wrote:
The instructions read
"You were subject to federal, state or local quarantine or isolation order related to COVID 19"
Does that mean when my county went into lockdown back in March/April for 3 weeks, those self employed people that didnt work during that time would qualify for this?

Yes. Well, sort of. Their must have been work available to be done (see below, including the link to Questions 23-27).

This is worded towards being an employee, but the same rules apply:

How do I know if I can receive paid sick leave for a Federal, State, or local quarantine or isolation order related to COVID-19?

For purposes of the FFCRA, a Federal, State, or local quarantine or isolation order includes quarantine or isolation orders, as well as shelter-in-place or stay-at-home orders, issued by any Federal, State, or local government authority that cause you to be unable to work (or to telework) even though your employer has work that you could perform but for the order. You may not take paid sick leave for this qualifying reason if your employer does not have work for you as a result of a shelter-in-place or a stay-at-home order. In the instance where your employer does not have work for you as a result of a shelter-in-place or a stay-at-home order, please see Questions 23-27.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/pandemic/ffcra-questions#60

Just-Lisa-Now-

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One of my clients that has an auto repair shop, he had to close and his guys sat home for weeks due to the county shut down (they had plenty of work!) he paid them for the first 2 weeks and we took it as FFCRA on his 941 then after the 2 weeks, they went on unemployment.

So by what qb stated above, I was kind of panicking that they werent entitled to that sick leave, but it seems like my interpretation is correct.

Thanks Bill!

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qbteachmt

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If the employer or business has no work to perform, you are unemployed, not on sick leave. If you have work to do but can't do it due to being sick or caring for someone else, that would meet the leave rules. At least, that's how it is worded here, for purposes of unemployment and SE pandemic Unemployment qualification.

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