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February 11, 2020
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Reporting Pension

  • February 11, 2020
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I have a client who received pension from Russia.  There are no forms that were provided.  Where on 1040 do I report this so I can e-file.

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Best answer by Just-Lisa-Now-

OK . . . . irv68's actual question was how does one go about getting the foreign pension into the proseries software and onto the 1040 (in a way that doesn't trigger tons of error messages).   Can someone out there address this "how to" question?  I can use the 1099-R input sheet, but without an employer ID number, proseries pitches a fit on the final review.   I can override the field on the tax return (line 4c/4d) where the pensions numbers go, yet that has its own set of issues.


Since there is no withholding and its taxed as ordinary income, couldnt you just add it to Other Income with Foreign Pension as the description?  

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Intuit Community Champion
February 11, 2020

I believe that is tax exempt. Here is a link to our tax treaty with Russia:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-trty/russia.pdf

itonewbie
Level 15
February 11, 2020

@Terry53029 wrote:

I believe that is tax exempt. Here is a link to our tax treaty with Russia:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-trty/russia.pdf


This actually depends on a number of factors:

1. Whether the recipient is a tax resident of Russia at the time of payment;

2. Whether the recipient is a Russian or US citizen or both; and

3. Whether the pension is a private pension, government pension, or social security.

To the extent treaty exemption does not apply, foreign pensions are generally subject to US tax as annuities under §72.  Generally, you will need to look to whether the taxpayer has established any basis over the years and that will entail assessing whether the pension was a §402(b) nonexempt employees' trust or foreign grantor trust, which are taxed differently for US tax purposes.  There are special considerations if the taxpayer was a nonresident at some point in time.

Just to throw a spanner in the works, it is not unusual that clients do not understand the technicalities to comply with the appropriate reporting and filing requirements and may have exposures in terms of trust filing and PFIC.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Still an AllStar
Level 4
March 4, 2020

OK . . . . irv68's actual question was how does one go about getting the foreign pension into the proseries software and onto the 1040 (in a way that doesn't trigger tons of error messages).   Can someone out there address this "how to" question?  I can use the 1099-R input sheet, but without an employer ID number, proseries pitches a fit on the final review.   I can override the field on the tax return (line 4c/4d) where the pensions numbers go, yet that has its own set of issues.