Which states allow 2% miscellaneous deductions?

[IRonMaN · Accepted solution]

Rumor has it, Minnesota allows it.  So does South Dakota, Texas, Nevada, Florida,  Alaska, Tennessee, Washington, and Wyoming.

[Just-Lisa-Now-]

at first glance I thought, dang, you remember all those?   then I noticed what they all have in common!

[IRonMaN]

:laughing:

[rbynaker]

With the caveat that it's not allowed as a deduction in TN if your name is Hall.

[garman22]

hahaha!! I thought, sheot.....he knows them?? But yeah.....i had to re-read Lisa's statement.

Illinois does not.

[HazelE]

This was my first time using the community, and I DID research it first, and tried to reach out after not finding anything.  But I am disappointed to see that all the answers I've gotten are "smart ass" answers instead of real help.  I guess I won't be using this platform again.  

[garman22]

You want boring, stuffy?

This was the first to pop up on google.

Is this boring enough?

https://taxfoundation.org/state-conformity-one-year-after-tcja/

[rbynaker]

Oh come on.  Laugh a little, it's good for your health!  It's the middle of tax season and we like to blow off a little steam.  It was a very good question, one that certainly I don't know the answer to.  So I'm following this thread to see what else I can learn.  But I can do that and have a little fun at the same time.

VA & MD follow federal, so you'll get no help in my neck of the woods.  I'm finding in several cases it's better to force itemized on federal, pay them a little more tax, and get a much bigger refund from VA/MD.

[lauriem33]

NY is allowing

[IRonMaN]

"all the answers I've gotten are "smart ass" answers"

Sorry, but we don't give "dumb ass" answers here ----------------- we just aren't capable of that.  Maybe Drake is better suited for those.

But as a side note, if it was the first time you used the community, how come your profile shows you asking 6 questions?
As another side note, who needs to know the list of all lists about which states allow the 2% deduction?  If I am never going to do a NY return, why should I care if they allow it.  All you really need is to be up to speed with the states you are filing.

[Just-Lisa-Now-]

I did try to google it, thinking maybe some website out there had compiled a list...but I didn't find anything.

I'd just deal with it on a client by client, state by state basis.

[HazelE]

Let me correct my previous statement: this is the first time I have used this platform and actually received any answers - so it hasn't proven to be at all helpful.  I do returns for many different states and was trying to figure out which ones I should watch for this.  So thanks for your time and good luck with tax season.

[sjrcpa]

You got answers to all but 1 of your previous questions.

[TaxesInMA]

Why clutter up this place with misinformation?

Especially when this joke turns out to be the top answer to a Google search.  (And there's no "/s" or other tag to indicate this is a joke.)

Aren't there plenty of other places for humor?

Actual answer, I think: Arkansas, California, Minnesota & New York.

Pennsylvania and some other states decided not to allow the miscellaneous 2% itemized deduction, though misinformation is still out there.

[IRonMaN]

You think?  If you don’t know the actual answer, please don’t clutter this place up with potential misinformation.

[TaxesInMA]

Troll.

[abctax55]

Yeah, sure....LOOK at Jeff's credentials before you start name-calling.

[TaxesInMA]

It's not about credentials.  "Jeff" may have personally rewritten the tax code and/or have a direct line to Rettig, that's fine.

Someone had a reasonable straightforward question, originally.  He gave a joke answer.  I called him on it... and gave an answer that is not perfect (I haven't checked all 50 states) but is better than a joke.  And I said "I think" to show that it wasn't necessarily the final answer.

"Jeff" decided to keep trolling.  I called him on it, again.

(Definition of troll, per Wikipedia: a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.  Wasn't that what he did, the second time?)

Do you think it was unreasonable for the original poster to ask "Which states allow 2% miscellaneous deductions?"  Or do you have an accurate and complete answer?  Or does Jeff?  If not, why keep pestering?

I don't declare myself an expert.  I've looked for a good/complete answer to this question and haven't found it.  Feel free to help?

[IRonMaN]

But my feelings are crushed being called a troll.  I might have to find a troll bridge to crawl under to live the rest of my life in shame.  

But the moral of story is, a little bit of humor goes a long way during tax season but Intuit doesn’t currently provide us a humor font when needed.  

As to the basic question why does someone need a complete list of those states?  If you aren’t sure about a state you are working on ask about the state here if you can’t find a set of state instructions on your own.

[poolcleaner]

Has anyone noticed that this thread was started and essentially completed 8 months ago at a time when it was relevant to most tax preparers as opposed to now which is 4 weeks after the last returns were due.

[abctax55]

"Feel free to help?"

I think I'll pass and let you do your OWN research.
Seems to me help was offered via a Google link, and advice to buy some research materials.

"..on your own."  
Excellent idea

[Camp1040]

I'm not that smart and I found it! This issue is basic research.
 “there are 12 states and Washington, D.C., that will allow you to itemize on your state tax return only if you itemize on your federal,”

Those 12 are Colorado, Georgia, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia, he said.

[Camp1040]

it's a start.....NY is missing.

[HazelE]

Thank you for this, but it does not answer the original question.  The original question [posted 8 months ago] was "which states allow the 2% miscellaneous deductions."  I already know which states allow itemized deductions, but most follow the federal "allowed" deductions, therefore NOT the 2% Miscellaneous Deductions.  And your response mentions states that allow itemizing only when you itemize on Federal.  There are still other states that allow you to itemized even if you do NOT itemized on Federal.  CA in particular, allows it even if you take the standard deduction on Federal AND they allow the 2% miscellaneous deductions even if you cannot take them on Federal.  I know there are other states that also allow the 2% miscellaneous deductions even if you cannot take them on Federal, but I cannot find which states those are.  And believe me, I certainly did "the research" before resorting to posting on this community.

[taxiowa]

@HazelE I agree Camp1040 did not answer the question asked.  And I am not sure TaxesInMA even has the same question.

I don't think any of the responders understand the reasoning behind your question.  Do you have alot of 2% misc deductions and are considering a move from your present state to any one state that allows these 2% deductions?  Or are you just curious as to which states still allow the 2% deductions?  Otherwise as someone mentioned, you could just ask if they are allowed in a particular state you are interested in.  Most preparers are aware of their state and maybe a neighbor but not all states.

I can answer for Iowa.  Iowa does allow 2% misc deductions.  Hope that helps and you are always welcome to move to Iowa to enjoy them.

[poolcleaner]

Thank you.

[sjrcpa]

@HazelE "believe me I certainly did "the research" before resorting to posting on this community." If you had researched each state with an individual income tax you would have come up with the answer. So, i don't believe you.

[Just-Lisa-Now-]

You want us to all call out if our resident state allows it, or you want someone else to go do the research for you?

California allows it.

[TaxesInMA]

Thank you.  I think Arkansas and Minnesota and New York too.

[poolcleaner]

Thanks, Lisa.

[abctax55]

The Tax Book has a great "All States" resource book, either paper or thru their on-line WebLibrary.  It's a great research resource for tax professionals.

[Ernie]

What state(s) do you deal with?

[TaxesInMA]

Information is spotty and sometimes incorrect/unhelpful (top answer indicates several states that don't *have* income taxes).

I think Arkansas, California, Minnesota and New York still allow the 2% deduction, at least in part.  I'm not sure about others.