18yrold dghtr student earned 18k, on her rtn I indicated she could/was claimed on another return-no limit on std ded. Her parent's rtn reject, said ssn already used. Why?

[chasetax]

Is this because her income was over $4,150? Program gave full std deduction $12,000. Or is this a bug?

[garman22 · Accepted solution]

Could it be Identity Theft?

[chasetax]

no, I filed student's return before parents return

[chasetax]

I am thinking maybe it is because her income was so high-but she was a student for five months and then graduated

[garman22]

Student went first? I assume student went through fine? Parents next and was rejected?
The student for sure showed she was claimed by another? After that, I cant think of a reason why.

[garman22]

The reject was for student? No other dependents?

[chasetax]

student efiled ok, info wksht shows she was to be claimed on another return, no other kids on parents---this suspended exemptions thing really upsets the apple cart, guess will have to call support THANK YOU

[garman22]

Scary sh-t. If you can remember, please come back and report. I am curious because I would've filed same without a thought.

[TAXOH]

I filed a student a few days before the parents and both went through okay.  On the students 1040 form is the box checked under your standard deduction "Someone can claim you as a dependent "?

[Just-Lisa-Now-]

Hmmm, Ive got a similar student/parent scenario that came in tonight...

18 yo Daughter earned 15K, it gave her the full standard 12k Deduction...she's marked as a  dependent on someone else's return.  Mom asked if she would get more refund if daughter claimed herself, I unchecked the dependent boxes just to be sure but everything stayed the same....so Mom didn't feel bad claiming her.  I get some parents that feel bad claiming their student child and the student doesn't get all their refund.

I'll be filing moms return first though, I don't have sigs from the daughter yet.   

[Just-Lisa-Now-]

I got the 8615 that popped up for the 18 yo daughter, she didn't have any unearned income though, so I dunno why it appeared.

[garman22]

I had the same on a 20 yr old. Claims self but 8615 pops up. Does it pop up due to age 19-23?

[TAXOH]

That must be why cause I had it pop up too.

[garman22]

question unrelated......there are numerous forms (federal) that are supposed to be ready on 01/31. Are they delayed or do you see the yellow bar across top of form (f4562, 8829 etc...)?

[TAXOH]

What forms?

[garman22]

Form 4562 and 8829 specifically.

[TAXOH]

I see the yellow bar and it says This form is not EF ready but can be printed.  Update available now

[garman22]

Thank you my friend. I have the same. Its on PS then as opposed to our individual programs.

[TAXOH]

You're welcome.   I tried updating and it still didn't change it.

[garman22]

same here. Im in no rush but with my Illinois issue...i just wanted to make sure.

[TAXOH]

I don't have any with those that have to be done right now anyways.  Most of mine right now are pretty easy returns.

[garman22]

Me too. Simple and a few EIC's sprinkled here and there.

[TAXOH]

I have quite a few EIC's at the beginning of tax season

[IRonMaN]

I had one really simple one, and then one that wasn't overly difficult but I ran into that little problem that Intuit didn't think anyone from Minnesota would actually itemize this year.  So now I'm moving down to Alabama where I don't have worry about starting any returns for a couple of weeks.  :truck:

[TAXOH]

:joy:

[taxiowa]

Form 2106 says same thing.

[garman22]

that’s good humor. Not for them tho.

[IRonMaN]

Well, no matter what, you still have to smile once in awhile or the job will kill you.

[garman22]

good words to go by.

[TAXOH]

:+1:

[chasetax]

@TAXOH  I know the box was on 2017 return but how/where do I check it on 2018 return? No box on 1040 standard deduction area that I see. thanks

[chasetax]

@TAXOH  Found the box on 1040 worksheet and it IS checked

[TAXOH]

On the actual 1040 it is at the top of the form under the name and address,  and  filing status.

[TAXOH]

Also since the earned income was 18,000 they would get the full standard deduction.

[chasetax]

@garman22
@TAXOH
@IRonMaN
thanks for the help, should have paid attention to garman22--going to be a long season--guess who entered incorrect ss# on parents return?!?!?!

[IRonMaN]

:+1:

[Just-Lisa-Now-]

   sorry to laugh, I think were all getting ready to be fitted for straight jackets this season.   

I posted a stupid goof up the other day...of course it wont compute a Max SEP for the spouse if I keep checking the box for the taxpayer!  LOL

[TAXOH]

You're welcome.   I think it's going to be a long season for all of us.  At least you can correct it and send it back through.

[The-Tax-Lady]

It's already been a long season 🙂 and that 8615 is in all my returns with a qualifying child, checking no and moving on.

[garman22]

@chasetax ha!! No worries! As @Just Lisa Now! We have done a couple of dopey things this week. I called out PS on a issue when there was no issue. Oooops!!!

Im glad you got it and thanks for posting back!! Good luck!!

[IRonMaN]

"We have done a couple of dopey things this week"

But yet the anvil guy's record is clean for the week.  Maybe an anvil a day helps in this job.

[IRonMaN]

Lisa - I just bought my new winter jacket on Wednesday:

[Just-Lisa-Now-]

You already got yours?!  You're ahead of the game!

[IRonMaN]

When it gets cold, you do what you need to do. :grimacing:

[sjrcpa]

Are they in the Acme catalog?

[IRonMaN]

Yes - page 666.

[abctax55]

Should we go for matching colors?
Lisa, you forgot to include the tidbit that it was on your OWN return
Jeff, how many points do they cost.  I *might* want more than one color if I have enough points, since I am such a "fashionista".  

[TAXOH]

I know I want more than one.

[IRonMaN]

Anna - they are priced at 1,000 points, but if you type in the code FREE, you get a 25% discount.

[Just-Lisa-Now-]

Ha!  yes, this was my own return, thank goodness!  LOL  

Oh I'm ordering one in hot pink with glow in the dark polka dots!  if Im gonna be crazy, I want to fully look the part!