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    Bsch4477
    Level 4
    Level 4

    Assuming passage of the new stimulus bill the increase in CTC applies to 2021. But the forgiveness of tax on the first 10K of unemployment income is effective for 2020 returns. Anyone have any idea how this will be implemented?  A lot of amended returns?

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    BobKamman
    Level 15
    IRonMaN
    Level 15

    Amended returns and a tax season that most likely won't be ending on April 15th.


    Slava Ukraini!
    TaxGuyBill
    Level 15

    And it could result in a bunch of tax preparers storming the Senate.   😂

    IRonMaN
    Level 15

    Hey - you can't say that kinda stuff here.  Let's each open a Parler account and continue this conversation there 😅


    Slava Ukraini!
    clr600
    Level 8

    Where in the new bill do you see the unemployment forgiveness

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    BobKamman
    Level 15

    @clr600 

    You have to wait a day or two until the ink dries.  First they vote on it, then they read it.  

    BobKamman
    Level 15

    @TaxGuyBill 

    Can I deduct my fur hat with horns?

    Like, it's a uniform, man.  

    But it does confuse people.  Kamman rhymes with salmon, not shaman.  

    IRonMaN
    Level 15

    "then they read it"

    Not this time.  Didn't the not so great senator from the great state of Wisconsin require them to read the bill to the Senate?  I'm sure he and all of the senior citizens in the Senate skipped their naps and listened to every word so that they could make a well informed vote on the bill.


    Slava Ukraini!
    sjrcpa
    Level 15

    They said it took 11 hours and some people were dozing.


    The more I know the more I don’t know.
    sjrcpa
    Level 15

    This is the amendment that added it

    https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20500255-carper-amdt?fbclid=IwAR2yy0TKh9H32Om8r9XAdntB-lXXX...


    The more I know the more I don’t know.
    BobKamman
    Level 15

    I think that goes back to the December appropriations bill.  It's not what was added Friday night / Saturday morning because it doesn't have the language about phase-out for incomes over $150K.  

    sjrcpa
    Level 15

    Oh. Sorry about that. Guess I haven't seen the real language.

    But I think this is the amendment for the $10,200 tax free 2020 unemployment.


    The more I know the more I don’t know.
    BobKamman
    Level 15

    It will show up here:

    https://www.congress.gov/amendment/117th-congress/senate-amendment/1378

    But even that may not be final, because there was a "manager's amendment" adopted by voice vote at the very end -- supposedly nothing that made major changes, just clarified language, but we don't really know until the final engrossed version is printed and sent back to the House.  And the people doing that have not had much sleep in the last couple nights.  

    gma
    Level 3

    Does this $10,200 exemption mean we actually have to amend everyone who had unemployment under 150K.  This is going to be ridiculous.  We do need an extension on time for people to file.  I have about 80 or so I haven't efiled yet.  At least 20% have unemployment.   

    abctax55
    Level 15

    @gma 

    Yes; which is why many/most of us have held those returns in anticipation of this development.  My  WIP is astronomical.

    HumanKind... Be Both
    chasetax
    Level 7

    let me add my 2 cents--I have a number of people with Obamacare, 1095-A, who have to repay the premium tax credit based on income(!!!) including unemployment--this is a mess

    rbynaker
    Level 14

    @chasetax 

    I saw posted in another forum that the bill includes a one-year tax holiday on APTC repayment.  I have not verified it yet so it's currently filed in my brain as "something I read on the Internet that might be true."

    abctax55
    Level 15

    Rick, I *think* that was on the table before they went with the non-taxability of UIC. Perhaps it was dumped in exchange for the UIC exclusion.  Or, maybe not.  That part of my brain you referenced is very jammed with what is likely a lot of useless and/or obsolete info.

    HumanKind... Be Both
    rbynaker
    Level 14

    @abctax55 wrote:

    Rick, I *think* that was on the table before they went with the non-taxability of UIC. Perhaps it was dumped in exchange for the UIC exclusion.  Or, maybe not.  That part of my brain you referenced is very jammed with what is likely a lot of useless and/or obsolete info.


    I don't read these things until they're actually signed (or at least on their way down PA Ave. to be signed.)  But there's no way to block out the noise leading up to it.