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Form 4626-if this form is required for year 2023, why is it not included in proseries??

ybaccountant
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abctax55
Level 15

NO software includes *all* forms.  Not even Lacerte, or Ultratax.

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sjrcpa
Level 15

And, are you sure it is required?

You've got average AFSI >$1 billion?

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IRonMaN
Level 15

One word (or maybe 4 digits) —-5227


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YBCPA
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No my clients do not have average AFSI>$1bill nor do they meet the safe harbor method; however, as I researched further I began to read about the penalties of not filing Form 4626 and wondered if I was understanding the changes or reading too much into this.  I spoke to another CPA and we agreed however his system has "defaults" and does not result in error messages. If you read Form 1120 Schedule K line 29a--answer is NO (below $1 bill) so then you go to 29c regarding the safe harbor method if answer is NO (meet the safe harbor method) then you must file Form 4626.  It seems to me that IRS is making us PROVE that the corp is NOT subject to AMT.  I just want to confirm that this is required and that I am "reading" it incorrectly.  Has anyone looked into this any further?  The issue is not the program or the fact that proseries does not have the form, although as much as we pay I would think they would include forms if required by IRS.  My question is whether we are required to include form 4626.

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George4Tacks
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Hmm? The instructions say "Who Must File
Unless a filing exclusion applies, a corporation must file Form 4626 to determine whether it is an applicable corporation and, if it is classified as an applicable corporation, to calculate CAMT.
Filing exclusions. A corporation is not required to file Form 4626 if the corporation is:
• An S corporation,
• A regulated investment company (RIC),
• A real estate investment trust (REIT), or
• A corporation that is not required to file Form 4626 for the first tax year beginning after 2022 because it is not an applicable corporation under the simplified method and chooses to apply that method. "

Prepare 4626 https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4626.pdf

Attach to the 1120 https://accountants.intuit.com/support/en-us/help-article/electronic-filing/attaching-pdfs-business-...


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YBCPA
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Thank you to all who responded to my question regarding the form 4626 for 1120 Corporations.  Here is another:

As advised I completed the Form 4626 and attached it as a pdf file.  Now I am getting an error message saying:

"This submission contains a form or schedule which MeF is not accepting as a binary attachment.  Please verify whether it is valid for your submission to include the form or schedule.  If valid, complete the form or schedule in the program"

I know the error is due to the attachment because when I remove, the error goes away.  Is anyone else having this issue?

 

RAC2
Level 1

I submitted the tax return without Form 4626 and received a letter from the IRA stating that I am required to complete Form 4626. Will Form 4626 be available in the 2024 ProSeries Tax program?

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Terry53029
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When attaching the pdf, under description do not use the word form just use the form number, and that should get rid of error.

George4Tacks
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@RAC2 You can check form availability at https://accountants.intuit.com/supported-tax-forms/?forms=pspro I don't see what you want listed yet, but check back. This is a user supported form and we don't have any insider information. Generally it is better to start a new question rather than tagging onto something that is months old.

@Terry53029 Hopefully this was resolved for the user in May. Good information, though.


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rwswifty
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Received a letter from IRS sating4626 was not attached and please complete and file.

No 4626 is in the forms.

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abctax55
Level 15

@rwswifty

Try irs.gov   - they have all the forms.

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RAC2
Level 1

Of course you can get the form 4626 from irs.gov. The solution is for ProSeries to include the form in the program and make sure it can be completed automatically in the program.

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George4Tacks
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@RAC2 Let me introduce you to the area where you should make suggestions for product improvement. https://accountants.intuit.com/community/proseries-tax-idea-exchange/idb-p/603$srcG4T

Click the Suggest an Idea Then put in a search - 4626 should be enough - to see if that idea has already posted. If a similar idea is there VOTE for it. If it is not there, write up what you want and promote others to vote for it by bookmarking that article and asking other to vote it up. Who knows ProSeries may actually listen and implement it some year. Posting here has absolutely no influence. Have a great 2025


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abctax55
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Sorry.  I interpreted your question as 'how to get a form if not in the software so I can complete to send to the IRS".

George is correct about the procedure to ask Intuit to include it in the software.

FYI, those suggestions are 'seldom' implemented.  But hey, it's almost Christmas - maybe Santa will help.

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sjrcpa
Level 15

It won't be automatic. There is no way it would compute E&P. I doubt it would do the ACE calculations either.

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