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Contribution Carryover Worksheet

ckimball50
Level 1

I have client whom donates lots of cash only to charitable organizations. Why then on the Worksheet for Limit on Charitable Contributions do I see entries on line 9 and 15  which refer to non-cash contributions? 

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pat
Level 5

This article answers the question on the carry forward and 2020 amounts. Read through and see if you entered correctly. If not you may have to amend to get the desired treatment or adjust to the correct amount. 
https://www.thetaxadviser.com/issues/2020/dec/changes-charitable-giving-rules-2020.html

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pat
Level 5

Sounds like you entered them under the 50% limitation on sc 25.

ckimball50
Level 1

Thanks Pat but I made no entries at all, these were cash donations carryovers from 2017 and it appears that the carryover amount was put on the wrong "Non-cash" line by the software and carried as such to the worksheet. Has never been an issue as the proper amount of carry over was being used. However, at this point the IRS changed the return and disallowed all the carryovers as well as the current 2020 $150,000 cash donations and the recalculated the return using the standard deduction? Been trying to get through to IRS but impossible even on the Hot Line. Thanks for your input at least I was able to verify that wasn't the issue. 

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George4Tacks
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I agree with @pat but I like pictures to show where we think you went wrong in the input. 

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ckimball50
Level 1

Appreciate your faith, but again, I made zero entries all carryover from year 2017 to 2018 and forward from proforma and in right place on carryover input below your point of interest. Just appears as non-cash on worksheet?

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George4Tacks
Level 15

What are the entries for prior year carryovers? Are they in the 50% limitation?  I think I see what you are encountering. 

I suggest you use Ctrl + L to send the return to Lacerte for them to review and get back to you with whether they feel the worksheets are correct or not. I have not run into this and digging through all the worksheets and pub 526 is not something I feel I want to do on my day off. Maybe @IntuitBettyJo could get someone at Lacerte to join in. 


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pat
Level 5

OK this was a trick(y) question. The cash AGI limit was 50% in 2017. TCJA changed it for contributions made after 12/31/2017. Not crazy. Not wrong. Just too many law changes. 

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pat
Level 5

It is possible that Lacerte proformad as non cash due to the AGI limit change. To better understand the IRS issue with the claim for the contribution tell us on what line the carry forward amount was reported on the 2020 schedule A. The 2020 cash contribution should be deductible up to 100% of AGI. Not sure how to combine that amount with any carry forward amount. George do you know off the top of your head?

Are you trying to get through on the Practitioner line? 

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pat
Level 5

This article answers the question on the carry forward and 2020 amounts. Read through and see if you entered correctly. If not you may have to amend to get the desired treatment or adjust to the correct amount. 
https://www.thetaxadviser.com/issues/2020/dec/changes-charitable-giving-rules-2020.html

ckimball50
Level 1

Thanks to all for your guidance in the matter. Yes, I am on the phone every morning with finger set to speed dial help line upon opening on West Coast. Immediately I'm told call volume to high. I will purse this matter and because of your help will educate myself even further. 

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pat
Level 5

Go back and review the 2018 and 2019 returns Sch A and charitable carryover worksheets to see how this carried forward after the 2017 change in AGI Limit. Make a copy of the 2019 and proforma to 2020 and see how it is brought forward. You may get info you will need to share with IRS when you do get through. 

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