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Agree with you that account with zero balance could be reportable for FBAR purposes. Could you please provide more facts and explain what you meant when you say PTO prevent you from filing the FBAR?
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I'm inclined to just round it up to one dollar, but that's not actually accurate.
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How did this problem end up please...?
I'm facing the same problem now...
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According to the FBAR official instructions
https://www.fincen.gov/sites/default/files/shared/FBAR%20Line%20Item%20Filing%20Instructions.pdf
they say:
Monetary amounts: When recording the maximum value of accounts, record all amounts as
U.S. Dollar amounts rounded up to the next whole dollar. The amount $15,265.25 would be
recorded as $15,266. The maximum value of the account can be determined using the following
steps. NOTE: After determining the value of the account, as described below, if the value results in a negative (minus) value, enter zero (0) in item 15, “Maximum account value.”
Observations:
1) When I occasionally use the FinCEN PDF file and upload directly, I have NO trouble putting zero for maximum balance and it goes through fine
2) Even the instructions clearly contemplate (e.g., in the case of a negative value of the account) that a zero (0) would be entered. So it must be possible to enter a zero for this case. What are we supposed to do if "the value results in a negative (minus) value", still put $1, even though the instructions clearly say to enter zero??!!
3) I do not know whether the Proseries/Intuit problem with a zero balance is a Intuit problem, or a FinCEN problem, but the ultimate XML file uploaded to FinCEN is the same, whether submitted online via the FinCEN PDF file or from Intuit's servers (which are programmed to create the requisite XML file for discrete or batch filing). So I do not believe the zero issue is a FinCEN issue, but rather an Intuit issue, i.e., that they have programmed our user interface to reject zeros. And why is that? Well, probably because someone REALLY clever at Intuit interprets the language "record all amounts as
U.S. Dollar amounts rounded up to the next whole dollar" as requiring zero to be rounded up to $1. Last time I had a math course, zero did not round up to 1. Maybe 1 cent rounds up to $1, but not zero. Zero is zero, already very round. Not to mention a negative balance account is required by the instructions to be marked at zero.
The question is, would someone at Intuit/Proseries actually address this issue, i.e., an answer by "professionals" for us professionals? Would that be too much to ask, considering we together are paying millions in fees to Intuit? I tend to doubt anyone will say anything, we send our data into a black box, and we complain to an unattended altar.
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@IntuitAustin in December 2019 you said you'd look into this, but you never got back to the forum, how about now? see the other post I just wrote in the same thread
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Can the Lacerte development team please allow zeros to be put in to their fields? I also have this problem and we need to report the zero bank balance and no, my clients do not want to put in $1 when the account is not funded and is $0. The difference is the account having been funded vs. not funded.
We cannot mail in Form 114 and it has to be e-filed. The e-file diagnostic does not allow for e-filing when we put in zero balance.