My point is I can't envision a single instance where they are required to file by 3/03.  I agree they may owe SE income on this year but they are not due until 4/15 because they owed nothing last year.  Most on this thread must not budget well and need to get money coming in.  They don't necessarily say it.  But it implied. But in reality most if not all of the farmers with big NOL this year or last do not need to file until April 15th.

I agree they have to use form 172, but they DON'T have to file until 4/15.  So tell all these tax men and women to get off Intuit's butt. The form is fine whenever it comes out. 

And any balance due from SE tax is not due until 4/15 also.  Form 172 will eventually come out.  Again others are afraid they are not going to get paid on timely manner.

And I not sure what you mean I have cash management problems.  I love you Bob but that statement is just weird.