@George4Tacks The first software I bought was ATX, from the Willett brothers, I think it was known as Sabre or Max back then.  Eventually bought out by the Dutch.  Looking at the history, that didn't come out until the late 1990s.  Was I really wearing a programmer hat that long?  I must be really old. Much older than you.  Not as old as the guy running the country into the ground . . .