yes it is and the 8879 is complete when I look at it on the screen....the entire return prints EXCEPT for the 8879 form though.  I can't even print just the single 8879 form.  My IT dept. ran the update this morning to make sure we had the most recent.  Now asking them to run a repair tool as someone else mentioned that.  Thanks for your response, we seem to have tried everything and this just started yesterday....it was working fine prior to then.