@BobKamman 👍Thanks for that information Bob, it was great, and it got me searching for my old Praeger Encyclopedia of Ancient Greek Civilization, and I found it: "Cynicism: The philosophical school was founded by the Athenian, Antisthenes, a pupil of Socrates, in the gymnasium of the Cynosarges (the agile dog), whence the name of Dogs or Cynics for the followers of the school.....Antisthenes' successor, Diogenes of Sinope, was famous for his witticisms.... when Alexander the Great asked him whether he requested any favour, Diogenes' only reply was to ask him to move out of his light." The ancient Greeks were simply brilliant, but I have to disagree with them when they say that dogs are shameless. Maybe at that time they were, since they may not have fully evolved since domestication, but anyone that has a dog now knows that they do have shame. 🐕🐕🐕☝