@Jim-from-Ohio that sounds good Jim. You have a different breed of people there in Medina Ohio. In my area here, we have many of the cheap @$$ breed of people. Just one of many examples: years ago one of them came to my office. A prospective new client. She had all her paperwork in a large stuffed manila folder. She asked me what the fee would be. I told her obviously I do not know since I haven't finished the return yet. She asked me: Will it be more than $20? I gave her her stuff back and said goodbye.