understood.. but I have to hand it to intuit as far as the self prepared tax prep market goes.. Intuit owns that market and the green and white company is trying to cut into that market with their cartoon ad which actually calls out Turbo Tax.  I don't think there will be many coverts though leaving Turbo Tax based on those ads.  The only issue I have this year is the 5695 hold up and hold up on 1040s with K-1s  (and a third issue to a lesser extent, the delay with CCA Ohio local form).