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@IRonMaN wrote:

My opinion is, I'm in the let the IRS  compute things camp.  Why make the client fork over cash that the IRS may or may not bill.  I let the client know the IRS may bill them later and leave it at that.

My one liner is - double debit with penalty sounds like something that would be served in an ice cream shop run by a bunch of accountants.

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I'm also in the "let the IRS do the math" camp.  Mostly because some things are calculated to the day and even if my client tells me what day they're going to make the payment, doesn't mean that's what's going to actually happen!  I will generally give them a number and aim on the high side.  "The IRS will send you a bill, if it's less than $x, just pay it.  If it's more, send me a copy first."

It's not a "double debit with penalty" but for the longest time I thought an Ariana Grande was something you got at Starbucks.