I think I might have noticed that the 8879 doesnt print along with the return, but I always print the signature pages separate anyhow, so it hasnt been an issue for me.   

But when I do print the signature pages separately, it always includes a 8879PMT as if theres a electronic payment being made, even when its zero balance due, so I know they've got some quirky programming happening.

There was an update to the CA 541 this week, I saw the files scroll past during the download...what changed?