chapguy19
Level 5

Doesn't the above client have to declare the basis of his new home as income since he will put his name on the title?

Or is it just a distribution to him. 

He is the sole shareholder.

Thanks in advance, Christopher

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IRonMaN
Level 15

Income to him, a distribution, a loan, anything that prevents the costs from being deducted as a business expense.


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chapguy19
Level 5

What are the credits and debits, so he doesn't have a tax liability.

? Credit his home on the P&L or Balance sheet and debit Distributions?

At some point his new home could be an asset of the S-Corp.

Thanks, C

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IRonMaN
Level 15

"At some point his new home could be an asset of the S-Corp."

How and/or why would his personal home become an asset of the corporation?


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strongsilence
Level 11

Real estate inside of an S Corp triggers taxable gain if he distributes it.  What is his long-term intent?

abctax55
Level 15

So.... assuming that is possible (S-Corp asset but he lives in it 😉 ) would the value of the  personal use get added to his W-2 ??? 

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Accountant-Man
Level 13

I bet this guy doesn't pay himself a salary. That's just a vibe I get.

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chapguy19
Level 5

Just to do the accounting correctly.

As he accumulates expenses to the building, these costs would increase his asset "Personal Home".

Then when he transfers it to his name:

  • Credit Personal Home
  • Debit Distribution (or Wages or what?)
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sjrcpa
Level 15

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  • Debit Distribution (or Wages or what?)"

That is the question. Could also be loan to shareholder. What is shareholder's intent?

And a distribution of property is done at Fair Market Value, not cost basis. I think wages paid in other than cash also use value.


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IRonMaN
Level 15

Stupid question, but I get at least one per week.  Is the main source of revenue for the corporation building homes?


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qbteachmt
Level 15

"since he will put his name on the title?"

"At some point his new home could be an asset of the S-Corp."

Well, which is it? Holding real estate in an S Corp is the worst way to own a property. If it is his own residence, why are you/he bringing the S Corp into the loop for ownership?

"Credit his home on the P&L or Balance sheet and debit Distributions?"

Nothing hits the P&L.

"As he accumulates expenses to the building, these costs would increase his asset "Personal Home"."

It's not his asset if you are entering this in the S Corp and he isn't paying for it personally. An S Corp doesn't have a Personal Residence. You seem to be trying to commingle everything in error. Either it is a business project, or it's personal and should not run through the S Corp at all. In which case, worker comp would like to have a meeting.

The costs accumulate in Construction in Progress, an asset. Or, everything spent is a loan to him, that is an asset as Loan to Shareholder. That will include land, labor, materials, subs, architect, engineering, permits, insurance, anything related to the project. If he is working under a construction loan, the interest that also is not expense.

Credit bank or credit card or AP, Debit instead of Expense is now Debit to this accumulator account.

If anyone is taking out a mortgage, who will that be?

"so he doesn't have a tax liability"

It's a pass through entity. You can't expect this project to throw them into loss. And you don't know this until the project is complete, the accounts are settled, you compare to his basis in the entity, if there are still any debts on the books for the project, what is in retained earnings, are you treating it as loan or as distribution, etc. Tax liability is the final result, not the upfront concern.

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chapguy19
Level 5

I am trying to be too cute.

Just going to dump all of the expenses into Distributions.

Will he have tax liability when he assumes the house at less than FMV?

Thanks, Christopher

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BobKamman
Level 15

Is a contractor who builds custom homes, allowed a model to show prospective customers?  Is he prohibited from living in it, while he uses it for that purpose?  Does it make a difference if his office takes up half the floor space? I'm looking for some more facts and circumstances.  

sjrcpa
Level 15

If you are treating expenses as incurred as distributions I don't think there is a problem. It's the same as if he took cash distributions and used the money to pay to build the house.

But, who owns the land?

Are you including all expenses such as payroll?


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