tonycpa
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12-06-2019
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How do you get ProSeries to deduct section 179 when calculating QBI?
My specific example regarding an S Corp K-1:
Ordinary income = 100,000
Section 179 = 50,000
Proseries calculation of QBI ignores the Section 179 and calcualtes at ord 100,000, ignores Section 179 x 20% = 20,000 QBI Deduction
Should be Ordinary 100,000 - Section 179 50,000 = 50,000 QBI x 20% = 10,000 QBI Deduction
What is the best way to handle this?
When is an update addressing this issue coming?
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I have removed your duplicate post.
Ernie
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I am not sure S-Corps are ready for QBI yet but the partnership I worked on did the deduction automatically. Walk through the QBI worksheets on the client return. That is where it handles the SEC 179.
rbynaker
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I'm not even sure how to calculate this at this point. Say I have an S Corp that pays me $100K in wages, passes thru $4K of income on the K-1 and a $10K S179 deduction. What's my QBI?
(a) $4K
(b) $0
(c) $6K QBI loss carryover
(d) None of the above
Keep in mind, the $10K is allowed to create a "loss" on the business because the owner's wages are factored into the calculation. Or we can simplify it some and go with this one: S Corp pays me $100K in wages, has $0 income on the K-1 and $10K S179 deduction. Is QBI $0 or -$10K? The law of unintended consequences...
Another question I've seen on other forums, what about SEHI from an S Corp? SEHI is already effectively deducted from the S Corp income by virtue of the fact that it's included in the W-2 wages of the owner. But QBI regs seem to suggest we might need to deduct it again as "effectively connected" to the K-1 income, which may be $0.
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(a) $4K
(b) $0
(c) $6K QBI loss carryover
(d) None of the above
Keep in mind, the $10K is allowed to create a "loss" on the business because the owner's wages are factored into the calculation. Or we can simplify it some and go with this one: S Corp pays me $100K in wages, has $0 income on the K-1 and $10K S179 deduction. Is QBI $0 or -$10K? The law of unintended consequences...
Another question I've seen on other forums, what about SEHI from an S Corp? SEHI is already effectively deducted from the S Corp income by virtue of the fact that it's included in the W-2 wages of the owner. But QBI regs seem to suggest we might need to deduct it again as "effectively connected" to the K-1 income, which may be $0.
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Good one, Rick. I would assume (b) as I am applying my 179 to income which brings my pass thru to $0. So there would be no QBI.
rbynaker
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That's currently the Drake approach. Deductions offset to the extent of QBI but do not create a QBI loss. I don't know if that's the right answer, but it's something. <shrug> Then try to throw in aggregation and my head just explodes.
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Im not sure off the top of my head. If you apply the remaining 179, arent you applying to W-2?
rbynaker
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Your guess is as good as mine. That would seem logical, but since when has logic been a requirement for tax laws?
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LOL!! amen to that my friend. This will be a goofy year. I wish they'd roll back to the old tax laws.