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Are you stating the 1099-R is fraudulent and can prove it?
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Yes, he did not get the money, the company lost his entire investment and then sent him a 1099-R as a distribution.
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And that $115K was his original investment amount?
The more I know the more I don’t know.
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Yes that was his full 401k amount and that full amount was invested in 1 company.
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Are you asking to deduct it or are you asking to not include it as income?
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What would be the correct procedure? I input the 1099-R-but he did not actually receive this money, how do I show that? It was a loss of his entire investment, not a distribution.
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I'm guessing we need Paul Harvey to sort this out for us.
If the "old" custodian was told to "invest/distribute" $115K to the "new/scammer" custodian, from "old custodian" perspective they made a distribution and issued a 1099-R. I won't bet too much that this is what happened, but Phoebe's shiny nickel bet comes to mind.
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Could this be a rollover?
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I wouldnt think so, there is no money left. But again Im not sure of the correct procedure in this case.
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What is the code in box 7?
That is why @George4Tacks is asking about a rollover.
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I was thinking indirect rollover. Shyster A distributes $150K to shyster B and issues a 1099R. Shyster B loses all the money and never distributes a 1099R cuz it's all gone.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/help-for-victims-of-ponzi-investment-schemes
Was either shyster investigated by the SEC? Do a google search for the individual and the SEC.
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Code is K, 1
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would I choose rollover and when he gets a notice from the IRS explain it all?
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Code K is a hint that you might just put taxable amount = zero. Make sure the client has clear evidence that the value truly was zero.
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Is box 2a filled in or is it empty?
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Yes, taxable amount not determined is checked off....
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Thank you everyone!