I tell clients if you can prepare the new W-4 and you have more than one job, kids, a spouse, you can prepare your own tax return!

More clients don't know what to do.  It takes more time. I'm not sure the best advice to give about withholding. Lately, I've been giving clients a tax rate and telling them to call the employer/IRA custodian/pension plan and see if they have an easier way to change it.

It is deflating.

We are trying to help the government.

Have you tried the IRS W-4 calculator?

@Strongsilence-CPA no I haven't tried that yet. Usually I tell clients to discuss it with the payroll department where they work and let them take care of it. I don't like to get involved with that. I tell the clients they have to increase the withholding or pay estimates.

It requires a course, for sure.  Surprised it's only an hour long.  

@GodFather 👍Give them a couple of more years and it will be a two day seminar.😉

I struggled through one the other day.  I figured out that the new one is logical.  The problem is that we have been doing it so illogically for so long, it's difficult to reprogram our synapses.  

@BobKamman 👍🖖we can call the new one the Spock W-4.

So I'm curious.  Did you sign up for the course?😀

@IRonMaN Nope. If my memory serves me right, it was an H&R Block course, unless my thick pop bottles were mistaken (I delete emails real fast).