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Client's 1099R has more in Box 5 than in Box 1. Since this is described by the IRS as the amount of investment paid in, should the overage in Box 5 be a capital loss?
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Is 1099R marked Total Distribution ?
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...I thought about that, but was thinking maybe we could take a pro-rata share each time $$ come out. I'm not easily finding anything on irs.gov or elsewhere that addresses this.
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And who issued the 1099-R? Gov't, insurance co.?
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insurance co
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Is this an employee pension, or a purchased nonqualified annuity?
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Insurance company payments generally indicate an annuity. Annuities payments are disbursed on a LIFO basis. Taxable earnings, are distributed before principle. If the amounts in box one and box 2 are the same, it would indicate that the distribution is taxable earnings. What is the code in box 7?
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Box 7 is G. direct rollover, which of course makes sense with Box 2 being zero.
So I know that the distribution itself in Box 1 is not taxable, just trying to get the taxpayer a little less tax liability by making the additional Box 5 eligible as either a capital loss (likely), or an ordinary loss(preferably).
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it's being paid by a life insurance co if that's helpful; other than that I don't know. Is there a way to find out without putting the client through tax hell? The amount of current year tax to be saved would be in the $500 range.
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You can't claim a loss on a rollover.
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Since it's a rollover - doesn't the information in box 5 just get filed away for tracking basis information
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noted. thank you.