Have discovered one point of confusion.  The version of the program that is being reported in the update window is WinOp version, not the actual program version.  So the WinOps version is 45.0115, the program version is actually 45.0131 which you have to go into the program and find that (F10 then look for versions of the actual programs) instead of it being in the version pop up box.  The version that pops up as 2024.4.13.1 in the version box with the WinOps version is not the format that keeps being reported to us latest program versions, those use the 45.0131 format.  Stupidly confusing.