Lacerte is a slightly aged, going-bald and seasoned guy with sophisticated smiles and a pot belly.  The other one is an energetic, full-haired, running around, shouting out loud kid. 

It takes me hours to figure out which icon to click on my cell phone.  It takes my grandson minutes.

Of course it takes longer to get to Form Five One One.  (I don't even know what it is for, but all my junior staff do.)