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December 9, 2020

Cancellation of Indebtedness Income? Or not?

  • December 9, 2020
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C-Corp had old payroll tax debt forgiven (CSED - collection statute expiration date).  Is that taxable?  Or not?  Is it even forgiven or is it still owed but the IRS can't collect?

Thank you!

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    Intuit Community Champion
    December 9, 2020

    if a 941 was filed the IRS has 3 years from the time the 941 was filed to  assess the tax penalty. Did your client ever file the 941

    TaxGirl3Author
    Level 5
    December 10, 2020

    Yes, 941s were filed.  This wasn't a 941 penalty, it was the 941 taxes themselves.

     

    Thanks.

    sjrcpa
    Level 15
    December 9, 2020

    Unless the corporation is insolvent, I don't see why it would not be taxable.

    The more I know the more I don’t know.
    TaxGirl3Author
    Level 5
    December 10, 2020

    Got it, thank you!

    rbynaker
    Level 13
    December 10, 2020

    Cash or accrual basis taxpayer?  What type of payroll taxes?  Trust fund taxes would likely have been deducted in the prior year as salaries & wages.  Employer taxes, maybe or maybe not.  If it was written off in a prior year then it should probably be written back on (pending insolvency calculation).

    TaxGirl3Author
    Level 5
    December 10, 2020

    Accrual.  A bit of 940, but also 941.  There was an installment agreement.

     

    Thanks for responding!

    BobKamman
    Level 15
    December 10, 2020

    For an "on the one hand this but on the other hand that" discussion, see

    https://www.currentfederaltaxdevelopments.com/blog/2015/5/12/expiration-of-statute-of-limitations-on-collection-of-outstanding-debt-found-not-to-have-caused-discharge-of-indebtedness-for-federal-tax-purposes

    I wonder how many solvent corporations the IRS is allowing off the hook without enforced collection before the statute expires.  Also, are you sure it has expired?  Who told you?

    TaxGirl3Author
    Level 5
    December 10, 2020

    Interesting citation.  There was an installment agreement and the annual statement shows the balances being removed due to CSED.

     

    Thanks for your response!