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I have prepared and filed a 1065 for my client which is a loss, the client does not have any tax liability on his federal, does he have to file a federal?

dr58lj15
Level 3

My client has a partnership which is a loss.   On his federal, he does not have any tax liability with no balance due or refund.   Does this taxpayer have to file a federal tax return?

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IntuitMelindaS1
Intuit Alumni

If I'm understanding the chain of events correctly, you have already filed Form 1065 on behalf of this client, and you are now working on his filing requirement for his individual Form 1040, at which point we are reporting the items of loss that have flowed to him from the partnership on his Schedule K-1. 

 

You indicate that he may not have a 1040 filing requirement, but this is based on the fact that he does not have a tax liability. I assume you mean that total tax on Line 24 of Form 1040 is zero. Regardless, even if the client's 2025 tax is zero, in future years he may hope to offset that year's tax liability with prior year losses. Net Operating Losses reported for tax year 2025, can be carried forward indefinitely. In order to claim the current year losses as an offset to future tax liabilities, you must file Form 172 in the year the business losses are incurred as an attachment to the federal 1040. 

 

Otherwise, all the benefits of incurring business losses are, basically, forfeited. In other words, yes, you should file a federal tax return for this individual.

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Skylane
Level 12
Level 12

Probably. Would he have a tax liability if there were no partnership loss?

If at first you don’t succeed…..find a workaround
sjrcpa
Level 15

The requirement to file a return is based on Gross Income, not whether your tax = 0.


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IntuitMelindaS1
Intuit Alumni

If I'm understanding the chain of events correctly, you have already filed Form 1065 on behalf of this client, and you are now working on his filing requirement for his individual Form 1040, at which point we are reporting the items of loss that have flowed to him from the partnership on his Schedule K-1. 

 

You indicate that he may not have a 1040 filing requirement, but this is based on the fact that he does not have a tax liability. I assume you mean that total tax on Line 24 of Form 1040 is zero. Regardless, even if the client's 2025 tax is zero, in future years he may hope to offset that year's tax liability with prior year losses. Net Operating Losses reported for tax year 2025, can be carried forward indefinitely. In order to claim the current year losses as an offset to future tax liabilities, you must file Form 172 in the year the business losses are incurred as an attachment to the federal 1040. 

 

Otherwise, all the benefits of incurring business losses are, basically, forfeited. In other words, yes, you should file a federal tax return for this individual.

sjrcpa
Level 15

@IntuitMelindaS1 And what if the loss is a passive loss?

 

"Otherwise, all the benefits of incurring business losses are, basically, forfeited"

Got a cite for that?


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IntuitMelindaS1
Intuit Alumni

CHARLES KINNEY V. CIR, No. 22-70265 (9th Cir. 2024)

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sjrcpa
Level 15

I don't think I'd hang my hat on that one.


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IntuitThomasM125
Intuit Alumni

You can use this IRS tool to determine if your client needs to file a federal tax return.

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