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Level 2
April 14, 2022
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Student age 20 does Crypto investing and had S/T gains over $85000

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I have a client who is a student and this year did alot of Crypto transactions and ultimately had over $85000 in s/t capital gains.  In theory the kiddie tax would come into play but this is sort of his job as well as being a student.  He only had $2500 in W-2 wages.  can you just not file the kiddie tax and file as single.  The gains in theory cover half of his support

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dascpa
Level 11
April 14, 2022

Did he actually pay for his support, not could he/she have?  If sitting in his crypto account  or reinvested and not spent on support then obviously no.  I would be surprised to hear he/she paid for college, housing, food, etc. as per the listing the IRS has for determining support.

I'm really shocked at your $85k.  I've had a ton of client crypto this year and hardly anybody made any real money.  Curious, what's the kid's major?  Finance or Art History?

gscheckAuthor
Level 2
April 14, 2022

He is finance.  I have a 113 page schedule D from Crypto transactions.  he trades every day multiple times a day and i am thinking it is really his "job"  he did not pay for all his tuition, but some and used some to purchase a moped/scooter to get around campus.  I just think it is crazy that kiddie tax should apply

dascpa
Level 11
April 14, 2022

i previously posted I had one over 18,000 pages with 270,000+ transactions.  Far exceeded IRS attachment file size limit so had to borrow a friends software to create the pdf file for attachment.  Thought about mailing the 18,000 pages but that would be my entire tax season profit. 

Level 15
April 14, 2022

If he under age 24 and was considered a full-time student, the Kiddie Tax applies to him.

qbteachmt
Level 15
April 14, 2022

"but this is sort of his job"

But it's not. It's not Earned Income.

"He only had $2500 in W-2 wages."

There's the Job.

Don't yell at us; we're volunteers
gscheckAuthor
Level 2
April 14, 2022

I understand your comments.  Just trying to see if there is a way to avoid the kiddie tax.  Parents are in high tax bracket so it is substantial difference in tax owed.

sjrcpa
Level 15
April 14, 2022

In addition to learning how to make money; now he learns the tax consequences of making money.

The more I know the more I don’t know.
rbynaker
Level 13
April 14, 2022

Is support relevant for a student under 24?  To get out of kiddie tax he needs earned income >50% of his support.  We don't have all of the facts but my guess is kiddie tax applies here.