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July 27, 2021
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IRA Contribution - Types of Deductions / Benefits

  • July 27, 2021
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Taxpayer X (Married Filing Jointly) has an AGI of $244k. This income includes W-2, 1099-R, 8949 sale of a second residence, and social security income.

When I am going through the tax return, I am determining if a traditional IRA is fully deductible. The husband participated in a retirement plan at work in 2020, so that limits the spouse's contribution based on this table:

https://www.fidelity.com/retirement-ira/contribution-limits-deadlines

What's very odd is when I enter the $7k traditional IRA contribution for the spouse, it is not coming through on line 10 as an adjustment to income in ProSeries, which I expect, since the taxpayer is above the MAGI.

However, it appears to be reducing the 1099-R IRA distributions that I am have on line 4a of the 1040.

Some of the 1099-R received have Code P, "Return of Contribution Taxable in 2019."

Is it possible that an IRA contribution can reduce/offset certain IRA distributions? In other words, the taxpayer is not getting the more conventional IRA deduction but is instead being allowed (for some reason I still don't understand) to offset IRA distributions that contain a certain code.

ProSeries is reducing the overall tax liability when I enter the IRA contribution despite being over the income limit.

The other thought is the consideration of the IRA with regards to the income type, meaning MAGI needs to account for sale of the home (i.e. it is not part of the income limit since it is not regular income).

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qbteachmt
Level 15
July 27, 2021

Oh, this is a lot of intertwined stuff that doesn't need to be so hard.

"When I am going through the tax return, I am determining if a traditional IRA is fully deductible."

Why not let the program do this part?

https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/2020-ira-contribution-and-deduction-limits-effect-of-modified-agi-on-deductible-contributions-if-you-are-covered-by-a-retirement-plan-at-work

"meaning MAGI needs to account for sale of the home (i.e. it is not part of the income limit since it is not regular income)."

Did you mean "earnings" or "compensation?" Not all of your list of sources of income are taxable compensation as earnings, even though they might result in taxable income. All of this is needed for the IRA contribution analysis. Since you mention $7k for the spouse, I would assume the nonworking spouse is over 50. And that the W2 has a gross of at least $7k.

You mention AGI of $244k.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/magi.asp

https://www.irs.gov/publications/p590a

"when I enter the $7k traditional IRA contribution for the spouse, it is not coming through on line 10 as an adjustment to income in ProSeries, which I expect, since the taxpayer is above the MAGI."

Line 19 would be IRA. You should have an IRA worksheet and likely will have a Form 8606.

"Some of the 1099-R received have Code P, "Return of Contribution Taxable in 2019.""

"Some?" What was filed on the 2019 1040? Did they make a corrective distribution by taking out funds in 2020 that were put into a Traditional IRA as 2019 money, but it turned out to be an error? This seems like "some" were excess contribution(s). Was this corrected before filing 2019? Or, later in 2020?

"ProSeries is reducing the overall tax liability when I enter the IRA contribution despite being over the income limit."

Are you properly marking T/S for these activities?

Are you trying to make a spousal contribution and spouse has one or more of these 1099-R? You never stated who these "some" 1099-R belong to.

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tccpg289Author
Level 5
July 27, 2021

Thanks for the response:

 

There are actually several 1099-R. The one I am focusing on happens to be in the name of the spouse, with distribution Code P. And yes, I am sure I am marking them as the spouse's item.

For the 2019 correction, I believe they were over the deduction limit so yes, it was a correction. I do not know if it was before or after the return was filed.

Yes, I am essentially trying to make a spousal contribution. I can confirm that on 8606, Line 1 is populating $7,000 as "Enter Your Nondeductible Contributions to traditional IRA for 2020."

And yes, there are several types of income that may not count against the IRA contribution income thresholds when a spouse (husband) participates in a plan at work.

 

qbteachmt
Level 15
July 27, 2021

"The one I am focusing on happens to be in the name of the spouse, with distribution Code P."

A taxable distribution would be netted by a tax deductible contribution for the same person that is named on the 1099-R and is tagged for that contribution.

"For the 2019 correction, I believe they were over the deduction limit so yes, it was a correction. I do not know if it was before or after the return was filed."

Here's what matters: you seem to have a 2020 1099-R for something that applies to 2019. If it was not done by the filing due date of the 2019 return, filed in 2020, then it is considered also reportable and taxable in 2020.

"I can confirm that on 8606, Line 1 is populating $7,000 as "Enter Your Nondeductible Contributions to traditional IRA for 2020."

Then it is not offsetting any taxable distribution for 2020.

It seems you have some reading to do on all of this.

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