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September 22, 2021
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How do I arrive at the cost basis of a rental property that was purchased in 1996 but never depreciated in order to calculate the capital gain after an insurance settlement due to a fire?

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How do I arrive at the cost basis of a rental property that was purchased in 1996 but never depreciated in order to calculate the capital gain after an insurance settlement due to a fire?

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Level 15
September 22, 2021

COST Basis is just that; cost.  Purchase price plus cost of improvements.

ADJUSTED Basis is usually the Cost Basis MINUS the depreciation.  In this case, it is the depreciation that SHOULD have been taken.

You probably need to separate out the land from the total cost, so you get the Basis of the building itself.

 

Form 3115 needs to be filed to "catch up" on the missed depreciation.

joshuabarksatlcs
Level 9
September 22, 2021

Just wanted to add that when Form 3115 is filed (i.e. the change of accounting method is effected), the catch-up depreciation (prior years') is a deduction line item under "other deductions" on Sch E.  The current year depreciation is deducted on the "depreciation" expense line.  The accumulated depreciation, and thus adjusted cost basis, will then be all caught up.  

 

If NO Form 3115 is filed, the adjusted cost basis would still be the same - because the recaptured depreciation is the higher of the "allowable" and "allowed" amount.  Just that by filing Form 3115, the tax benefit of the "allowable" depreciation - the prior years' - can be realized in one (the filing) year, instead of being lost in the vacuum. 

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BobKamman
Level 15
September 22, 2021

How do you get around  doing it after June 30?

Application for Change in Accounting Method, generally must be filed within 180 days after the beginning of the taxable year in which the proposed change is to be made. Regulations Section 1.446–1(e)(3)(i).

(Answer:  This might have been waived by IRS in 2015, and they might not have unwaived it since then.)

If this taxpayer didn't know about depreciation, does he know about involuntary conversions ?

 

dkh
Level 15
September 23, 2021

My Oh My.... you gentlemen are getting all fired up in the details of answering a question for an OP that will probably never return to read any of this.   

 

joshuabarksatlcs
Level 9
September 23, 2021

So true.  Yet, don't forget, I come here only for kicks and drama.  So, I'm okay with it.

 

@dkh: Your comment reminded me of an old joke.  Little boy walked into the kitchen and asked, "Mom, what's sex?"

 

Mammy sat him down, started with bird and bees and butterflies...  A good twenty minutes later, little boy interrupted her and asked, "How can I put all that in the little boxes - one box says M, the other says F?" 

 

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