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Level 4
February 26, 2021
Question

Hawaii tax returns -taxability of retirement pension when Federal COVID rules apply

  • February 26, 2021
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Hawaii says:

"You Must Fix This Error   Hawaii Individual

Retirement Exclusion Worksheet line 6, total exclusion.

We're still working on updates related to Retirement Distributions that qualify for disaster or COVID relief.  You can keep working on your tax return and we'll remove this message when its ready."

 

This is very misleading.  A:t tax.hawaii.gov, Tax Law and Guidance, Digest of Tax Matters 2020, they are very clear that the Federal COVID provisions do not apply  (Look at pages 13, 14 and 15).  If I can figure out how to attach this statement I will attach it to this E mail.

I have sent a letter to Senator Morikawa asking to make a law allowing Hawaii to follow the Federal COVID rules.  Also, since Hawaii law is that when ever there is a Code 1 the retirement is 100% taxable I have asked him to change the law so it is not taxable.

The thing for Hawaii tax preparers is to be aware that as I see it, under current Hawaii law 100% of this distribution is taxable.

To get the federal tax return to follow the COVID rules of only 1/3 taxable and no penalty, Scroll down in Form 1099 R worksheet and you will find a place to make this happen.

 
 
 
 
 

 

Subject: RE: Taxation retirement plans. Can Hawaii state legislators make a law that provides 2020 retirement plan to be not taxable to Hawaii or only 1/3 taxable each year over 3 years.

 

 

Presently “ the following provision is not operative for Hawaii income tax purposes.

 

72(t); non-code

 

Waiver of 10% Early distribution penalty

 

A 10% penalty applies to any early distribution from a qualified retirement plan.

 

The Act waives the 10% early distribution penalty for distribution related to the

Coronavirus of up to $100,000.  The Act allows any taxable distributions to be

Taxed ratably over the following 3 years.  Related to coronavirus includes

Those diagnosed, whose spouse or dependent was diagnosed, and those who

Experienced financial hardship from quarantine, furlough, layoff, or other indirect

Effect of corona virus.

 

Effective for distributions made from Jan 1, 2020 through December 31, 2020.”

 

 

Hawaii residents can not take advantage of the 1/3 being taxable.  Also because there

Is a code 1 on the Form 1099 R 100% of the distribution is taxable.

 

Can Hawaii make a law to follow the Federal rules and allow  only 1/3 taxable each

Year for 3 years.

 

 

Better yet, because the code 1 10% penalty is waived for the federal tax return,

can Hawaii law change, proceed as if there is no code 1, and make the distribution 100% not taxable.

Presently with retirement income when there is a code 1, the retirement plan is taxable to Hawaii.

If there were no code 1 the qualified retirement plan would not be taxable to Hawaii.

 

 

To get the above information I went to:

Tax.hawaii.gov

Tax Law and Guidance

Digest of Tax Matters

2020

 

From Peter Goodbody

[email address removed]

Phone 591-0445

 

Sharon Y Morikawa is the Senator from  S District 12

Waikiki, Crestview. Manoa, Pearl City and Pacific Palisades

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Level 3
February 28, 2021

I'm also hoping the legislation will overturn this as they're in session right now, but this will definitely not be done for this tax year. 

Were you able to see when proseries will get this fixed?  I've been searching for that information with no resolution.  I'm starting to feel that we need to manually put it in and have the clients mail it in.  Any thoughts?  

Level 4
February 28, 2021

FIX:

Have the Form 1099 R changed to code two.  Then Hawaii retirement will not be taxable.

In the original E mail you will note the Federal provision is under section 2.

In the IRS instructions form code 2 says that  section 72 t gets a code 2.  I believe page 15 of the Form 1099 R instructions.

Level 4
February 28, 2021

When getting a correted form 1099 R to code 2, you should also get  box 2 a changed to 1/3 of the full pension.

The taxable portion  under section 72 t of the law is now being deducted 1/3rd each year for 3 years.

Level 8
April 6, 2021

Peter...I did the same research you did and I think that section was listed under:

the following provision is operative for Hawaii income tax purposes.

You might want to look at it again, just to be sure.

Have you heard anything about Hawaii Legislature adopting the Federal exemption of 10,200 for the UI payments?  I don't want to file Hawaii returns until I know for sure that they are not going to adopt the Federal rule on UI taxing.

 

 

 

 

Level 4
April 6, 2021

taxea  I am not sure what provision you want me to look at.